Just found this. Is it new?

[ross_burkin]

Is this a new add? http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F169158

£55!

[Will_Lee]

Dunno but I have just emailed to find out.

[Will_Lee]

Still for sale. I have asked owner for pics.

W

[Ratface]

me and a few friends are looking at it and have asked for pics/more details aswell as we may well get it and do it up...

you never know we could even go to the nationals!

take it nothing about it is known?

James

[Will_Lee]

No number yet. Do your pics show a sail number?

W

[Ratface]

Hi

Unfortunatly i dont have any pics at the moment,

What else would you like to know? it is a green grp hull with a ply deck. I had intended to remove the deck, and add a space frame ( like new cherubs) as well as bowsprit, big kite etc etc. Unfortunatly i wont now have the time.

I am based in southampton if you would like to come and have a look.

john

^^ thats what i got, have emailed for more info on it

[JimC]

What else would you like to know? it is a green grp hull with a ply deck. I

Endless possibilities... If its genuinely GRP as opposed to foam sandwich then its most likely one of the Seaflite Jennifer Julians from the late 70s, but there were also glass forman 4s and even earlier Gregs. There was a pretty well known glass Forman 4 which had foam reinforcement in the hull floor, visible as seprate lumps if my memory serves me right, which was quite notable for a while.  Any non sandwich GRP boat is a "don't touch with a bargepole" job when it comes to putting a modern large rig on, because they weren't really stiff enough with rthe rig they were designed for. In fact its probably a don't touch anyway unless in exceptional condition: by the time you've got a rig and everything else.... There was *one* Foam Sandwich Jennifer Julian in the very early 70s. That would be a boat I would love to find, as its probably the single most historic "unknown" dinghy in the world if it still exists (probably first foam racing dinghy in the UK, part built by Russ Bowler ). Converting that one would be a crime against humanity, and I'd love to find it to sit alongside Queenie SJB.

I don't know if we've got any modern ie post Amber Dragon foam boats missing that might have had a ply deck. Will, any ideas? An Omega boats Forman 8s would be another more recent possibility: they were foam. That could be usable for an entry level boat. Transom pictures and bow pictures would be key for identification.

[Tim Noyce]

or some flash photos inside the tanks so we can see what she's made of!

[Will_Lee]

Hi Jim,

I don't think I found 2639, but I think that one was ply. Don't forget I was only targetting 2637 onwards.

[JimC]

I don't think I found 2639, but I think that one was ply.

Having dug out a spreadsheet I made some years ago I believe 2639 to have been wood and scrapped in 2001. I think between us we can eliminate every boat built after 2623 from being this one, so a Forman 8s would be about the latest candidate. That would be worth having I think: an 80s vintage boat.

[mathew_harris]

i know this is slightly off topic but i'm as ever curious, how do you go about tracing the boats from yesteryear?

[Will_Lee]

I wrote an article about it for the newsletter for the 2004 dinghy show. I do not have a pdf. Does anyone else?

[Ratface]

the guy selling that boat does not know the sail number or what design it is.
going to steer well clear i think!

[ross_burkin]

"steer well clear"... and into the direction of Flat Stanley. A bargin at £1100 ONO.

[Eggbert]

Have you bought Therapy then Ross seen as it's no longer for sale and Flat Stanley is?